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September 09, 2007

Don't Believe It

The latest and perhaps most serious allegation against the McCanns is that Madeleine's blood was found in the boot of the silver Renault Scenic car that the couple hired more than three weeks after their daughter went missing on May 3. The blood is said to match DNA from Madeleine found in the apartment. The suggestion is that one or both of the McCanns placed Madeleine's body in a temporary hiding place before later moving it to a new location.

Counter claim:  The McCanns say it would have been impossible for them to move around their own daughter's decomposing body.

Well, I don't believe the allegation and do the refutation. You know what the weather is like down here in May/June? Without refrigeration there wouldn't actually be much for them to move around after three weeks. It most certainly wouldn't be a slightly more distasteful version of moving a sleeping child around.

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Has anyone considered the possibility that they might have eaten her?

Posted by: Twenty Major | Sep 9, 2007 9:02:27 AM

Don't put ideas into the minds of the Portuguese police. They'd be capable of believing anything - provided there was no evidence.

Posted by: GeoffH | Sep 9, 2007 9:28:29 AM

"Don't put ideas into the minds of the Portuguese police. They'd be capable of believing anything - provided there was no evidence."

Evidence obtained by a UK police investgation team. Are they framing the McCanns too....?

If you say 'yes' to that, then all you need to do is identify just where the police (UK or Portugese) obtained the child's blood from. Take your time....

Posted by: JuliaM | Sep 9, 2007 11:20:11 AM

Julia M, you are such a silly troll.

Posted by: james C | Sep 9, 2007 12:52:49 PM

"Julia M, you are such a silly troll."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29

Educate yourself on what a troll actually is, dear boy, before you start tossing around words whose meaning you only vaguely understand... ;)

Posted by: JuliaM | Sep 9, 2007 1:06:47 PM

"Troll". Yup, it fits you perfectly, Julia, and no your bum doesn't look big in it.

Posted by: GeoffH | Sep 9, 2007 1:16:11 PM

I take that means you can't answer my questions above - here's another word for your dictionary:

Ad hominem

Posted by: JuliaM | Sep 9, 2007 1:20:05 PM

Ad hominem? What else do you expect when you hide behind sneer and innuendo. It's all you deserve.

Why don't you just come right out and say what you think? You obviously KNOW what happened. Just tell us about the McCanns and their daughter.

Or are you expecting to tell a tabloid first.

Posted by: GeoffH | Sep 9, 2007 2:37:44 PM

Anyone who says 'ad homimen' deserves a sharp boot to the cunt.

Posted by: Twenty Major | Sep 9, 2007 3:32:32 PM

"Why don't you just come right out and say what you think? You obviously KNOW what happened."

No, I don't. That's entirely the point.

But anyone who can't explain why the UK & Portuguese police would have the means, never mind the motive, to frame the parents, deserves to go sit in the Konspiracy Korner along with the Dianawasmurdered & Jewscarriedout9/11 krazies...

And since you >haven't attempted to answer how you think they could have done it, your new friends at Konspiracy Korner will welcome you with open arms, I'm sure. You see, they don't have any answers either. ;)

"Anyone who says 'ad homimen' deserves a sharp boot to the cunt."

I'll take it that means you don't have any answers either. Portuguese police just a bit too foreign for you to trust...?

Posted by: JuliaM | Sep 9, 2007 5:08:53 PM

"But anyone who can't explain why the UK & Portuguese police would have the means, never mind the motive, to frame the parents, deserves to go sit in the Konspiracy Korner along with the Dianawasmurdered & Jewscarriedout9/11 krazies..."

Now we know you've lost it. Neither I or anyone else has to explain blah, blah blah...conspiracy blah, blah, blah.

The UK police are not investigating the disappearance. The Portuguese police by leak, tip and nudge,nudge,wink, wink have created the conspiracy here. To the point where crazies like you talk of ...well, I won't say it...but its' clear YOU think it.

And all this after, what 100 days or more when another chap had his life ruined by the Portuguese police (ably abetted by the UK media high on the idea of Soham parallels). And still after all that you trust the Portuguese police.

You're incorrigible.

Tim adds: As someone who actually lives in Portugal and whose neighbour is in fact one of the Portuguese Police. Yes, I trust them. Not wholly convinced that they're the finest detective force in the world but then....this is, still, a pretty rural and little populated area. 400,000 people over 5,500 sq km. Smaller population than most English counties over a vastly larger area. This just ain't the Big City.

That's not a criticism, BTW. Just a description.

Posted by: GeoffH | Sep 9, 2007 5:31:00 PM

Well, you clearly don't have to be crazy to believe that there might be something in the theory that the McCanns were involved.

In the great majority of such cases the parents are indeed responsible; and there seems to be some forensic evidence that may implicate them - though of what quality remains to be seen.

I have no idea what happened, but putting those two things together and getting four doesn't make you a loon.

Posted by: Mr Eugenides | Sep 9, 2007 6:49:18 PM

I don't think the parents did it. I think she was abducted and murdered. The police cocked the investigation up - for the reasons Tim cites - very quickly, within the first 24 hours. I seriously doubt that in the absence of either a body or a confession that anyone could solve this case now. I suspect any forensics they have are utterly compromised, the sort of thing a semi-comotose defence lawyer could drive a coach and horses through. In normal circumstances this would simply become what I suspect it will always be: an unsolved criminal investigation.

The problem is the McCanns and the media are not going away. The Portuguese police are under acute pressure to find a suspect. You don't have to be a swivel-eyed conspiracy theorist to think that it is within the realms of possibility for a police force in this situation to turn to fitting up anybody they can find. Barry George, anyone?

By going on the offensive against the McCanns even if the police can't assemble a case, they can at least hope they make them go away. They're clearly engaged in a smear campaign against the McCanns. The Times today reports: "Reports also claimed that police sources said Kate is mentally unstable, displayed “aggression” and has been using her right to remain silent."
http://timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article2414796.ece

Mentally unstable and aggressive? Under the circumstances, I'd be concerned if she wasn't. In her place, I would be suicidal by this stage.

Posted by: Helen O | Sep 9, 2007 7:24:51 PM

"You don't have to be a swivel-eyed conspiracy theorist to think that it is within the realms of possibility for a police force in this situation to turn to fitting up anybody they can find. Barry George, anyone?"

From the comments here, it's clear that a 'swivel eyed conspiracy theorist' is exactly what you do have to be!

With Barry George, yes, there is a theory that the microscopic speck of gunpowder evidence was transferred when in police hands.

But then, the police have access to weapons, so while highly unlikely it is at least remotely plausible.

But in this case, they would need access to the blood & DNA of the missing child. So, where did they get it from?

Posted by: JuliaM | Sep 9, 2007 7:58:10 PM

"Now we know you've lost it. Neither I or anyone else has to explain blah, blah blah...conspiracy blah, blah, blah."

You mean, you can't. So you just keep throwing it out there as if it was a fact, like all conspiraloons.

Posted by: JuliaM | Sep 9, 2007 8:00:16 PM

Shouldn't somebody be out looking for the dingo?

Posted by: Tim Newman | Sep 9, 2007 9:21:17 PM

You may attack Julia, (I think I may have in the past!) but its a good question, if the McCanns are suggesting they are being framed, WHERE did Maddy's blood come from? WHERE did the Portugese police get the evidence to plant in their car? Are you suggesting the Portugese police killed her??? /That's/ ludicrous. To suggest the parents killed her is not ludicrous, that is surprisingly common.

Posted by: Zorro | Sep 10, 2007 3:13:05 PM

This is quite interesting on the subject of the DNA traces.

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/soci
ety/law_order/mccann+forensics+warning/784652

Posted by: Clairwil | Sep 10, 2007 10:22:11 PM