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August 19, 2007

Rudy Giuliani: Crazed Idiot

Look, there was until recently some room for manoeuvre here. Rudy Giuliani is, as everyone knows, power crazed, obnoxious, in it for himself and an all round disaster. He's a politician, but I repeat myself.

However, I had not until now thought that he was a crazed idiot:

EVERY foreigner in America, including British visitors, would be required to carry an ID card bearing photograph and fingerprints under plans drawn up by Rudolph Giuliani, the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination.

Giuliani is hoping to cement his status as the Republican favourite by promising to enforce immigration and border controls, drawing on expertise in combating crime from his time as mayor of New York. He announced last week that all foreigners, including holiday-makers, would be obliged to carry a “tamper-proof” biometric card, which could be issued at ports of entry.

Even our own home grown morons, in their campaign to barcode everyone, have realised that you can't issue such a card on entry to the country.

“The question is: in what circumstances will people be asked for their IDs?” said Jay Stanley, a privacy expert at the American Civil Liberties Union.

No, it isn't. It's how are such things going to be issued? Given the efficiency of the INS (now part of the Department of Homeland Security) there'll be three day waits at every airport in the country.

Insane, quite simply barking mad.

No, I don't have a vote in the coming election but for those of you who do, please, please don't plump for someone so clearly off his trolley.

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Yeah - the technology's all wrong. They should just issue you with an RFID chip to swallow with your travel ticket!


Posted by: Jock | Aug 19, 2007 10:48:34 AM

You forgot to mention that he's also a transvestite.

Posted by: jameshigham | Aug 19, 2007 11:20:10 AM


While I don't see this happening, I'm not sure it isn't do-able. The ID's could be issued at the consulates, at the same time a visa is. It is at least possible that some countries would simply knuckle under and change their passports to meet our requirements or provide their own ID, optionally, for those wishing to travel in the US.

While I am unenthused, I do see the US eventually getting a national ID card system. Sad, ain't it?

Posted by: Tom Kratman | Aug 19, 2007 1:17:08 PM

What's pointless about all this is that there's no use having an ID system unless you have the will to remove people who shouldn't be in the country. And the US doesn't have that will. There are millions of illegal immigrants who are easy enough to find now and throw out of the country, and this is something the US -- for better or worse -- is not prepared to do. Simply adding another piece of bureaucratic paper into the system doesn't provide the will.

And if you do have the will then there's no need for the ID system anyway, which will be an imposition on millions of people who have nothing to do with illegal immigration, and increase the power of the state in a worryingly non-specific way.

Posted by: Smidgeon | Aug 19, 2007 4:52:35 PM

Looks like the US has the same political disease as the UK: the "must be seen to do something...whether practical or otherwise" syndrome. I had hopes for Rudy based on his practical and effective tackling of crime in New York but now the question remains whether that or this is representative of his approach to things. I don't know enough about him to judge, but I'm less than enthused.

Posted by: Philip Thomas | Aug 19, 2007 6:53:16 PM

The arguments for a national ID as a way to counter terrorism is as weak and those who offer this solution are stupid. The 9-11 terrorists staged their sleeper cell in a country which, not only has a national ID Card system, but also requires everyone who moves to register their address with the local police. The latest set of would be bomber in the UK were working medical doctors, for God's sake!
Between one parties' national ID scheme and the other major parties' "FREE" universal health care, the upcoming US election is looking to become a grim nightmare. Never was a vote for the Libertarians looking so good.

Posted by: david | Aug 19, 2007 9:42:22 PM

"While I don't see this happening, I'm not sure it isn't do-able. The ID's could be issued at the consulates, at the same time a visa is."

...which would kill the visa waiver programme, which would kill foreign tourism to the US stone-dead and massively cut short-stay business travel.

Posted by: john b | Aug 20, 2007 2:30:11 PM

Since they already treat you like a criminal anyway, I have plans to visit the US in the foreseeable future (honestly, who NEEDS it?) so I don't care.

But he's still a raving whatsit.

Posted by: Andrew Duffin | Aug 20, 2007 4:03:34 PM

Well, Andrew, since I suspect that after Caliphate comes out I would be arrested the moment I set foot in any EU country...well...at least Euro's still _could_ visit the US.

Posted by: Tom Kratman | Aug 20, 2007 10:35:18 PM

Your right, he is a crazed idiot, like the rest of the crooks running. It's gonna be the same old crap, lies, deceit, corruption............I'm voting for Ron Paul. At least there will be a chance that my children will have a country to wake up to.

Posted by: Dominick A. DiTaranto | Oct 5, 2007 1:31:40 AM