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February 05, 2007

Hurrah, Hurrah

Bloody finally.

The Tories will scrap ID Cards  upon entering government. And as David Davies says, you'd better bloodly make sure that the contracts can indeed be cancelled with no penalties matey.

February 5, 2007 in Your Tax Money at Work | Permalink


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Likin' it, likin' it, lovin' it, lovin' it. Could work for taking some of the more orange Lib Dems.

BTW, David Davies is the MP for Monmouth and a figure I'm sure you'd like. Iain Dale interviewed him on 18 Doughty Street. David Davis is the Shadow Home Secretary.

BTBTW, mentioning contracts, what is your opinion of PFI?

Posted by: Josh | Feb 5, 2007 7:45:15 PM

When will the Conservative Party ever learn

With regards to contractual arrangements on ID cards, perhaps David Davis needs to read a copy of the EC Convention on the Law Applicable to Contractual Obligations

Article 17 - No retrospective effect.

Posted by: Anoneumouse | Feb 5, 2007 11:41:40 PM

Fine. We'll pay then. It'll still be worth it. If you paid out for some poison and then found out how dangerous it was you wouldn't eat just because you paid for it, would you. Okay... if we can't cancel the contracts then we'll pay them off but we won't have those cards.

Posted by: MarkS | Feb 6, 2007 6:28:20 AM

Why should we pay them off? With the ID cards scrapped, how will they identify the people they wish to sue? Or prove who they are, and hence that they have a claim? :-)

Posted by: Ed | Feb 6, 2007 7:53:16 AM

Anoneumouse, is that some sort of troll? Since when has there been a problem with having a cancellation clause in a contract?

In any case, even if there were, Parliament can still legislate contrary to European law, it just has to be clear.

Posted by: Marcin Tustin | Feb 6, 2007 9:34:43 AM

Tim - do you (personally) need an ID card in Portugal?

Tim adds: Sorta, sorta not. If I declare that I'm resident here then yes. But I'm allowed to live here without doing so (things like taxation are based purely on number of days in country...declaring residency is different).
So I don't have or need one no.

Posted by: Matthew | Feb 6, 2007 9:35:58 AM

These companies are not stupid they are only in it for the money. Even if the contract is water tight and says they get full pay regardless of if the scheme goes ahead it can be renegotiated.

Do you honestly thing that Accenture/Capita etc. will force a payment of £1Bn+ which they clearly won't have earned and lose all Government contracts they have and never be allowed to bid again.

Regardless of what this bunch of useless politicians put in the contract companies will come out with a compromise that gives them a profit on what they have spent so far and rightly so as it's not their fault yet minimise losses for us.

Posted by: Dave Petterson | Feb 6, 2007 12:09:38 PM

But what about the national register of identity, or whatever it's called? Would the Tories abolish that part of the scheme, which is far more important? And shall we still have to tell the authorities when we move house, and be fined if we don't?

Posted by: Little Black Sambo | Feb 6, 2007 2:18:44 PM

On cancelation of the contract the government must seize all documents, hard disks, backup media etc. pertaining to the ID card scheme and then destroy them. Scorched earth. Otherwise it would be too easy for a subsequent Nu-Labouresque regime to resurrect the project.

I got this idea from Sean Gabb when he was discussing the measures needed to truly drive a stake through the heart of a government body. You have to kill the institutional information in order to permanently abolish it.

Posted by: David Gillies | Feb 6, 2007 2:44:52 PM

Given the Tories' track record I won't be holding my breath.

They were going to withdraw from the EPP, remember?

They were going to repatriate power over fisheries, remember?

Actions speak louder than words.

But it's a good political move, anyway, even though it was probably forced by the prospect of more major desertions to UKIP.

Posted by: andrew duffin | Feb 6, 2007 4:43:26 PM

No problem if you do have to pay compensation. You then take a leaf out of Gordon's book and raise a "windfall tax" on the industry. That'll teach 'em to trust the Government.

Posted by: Kay Tie | Feb 6, 2007 5:51:18 PM