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November 26, 2006

Independence For England

You know how people often say that politicians are out of touch? That there's no one who represents their views? Quite startling evidence of this in a new poll in the Telegraph.

A clear majority of people in both England and Scotland are in favour of full independence for Scotland, an ICM opinion poll for The Sunday Telegraph has found. Independence is backed by 52 per cent of Scots while an astonishing 59 per cent of English voters want Scotland to go it alone.

There is also further evidence of rising English nationalism with support for the establishment of an English parliament hitting an historic high of 68 per cent amongst English voters. Almost half – 48 per cent – also want complete independence for England, divorcing itself from Wales and Northern Ireland as well. Scottish voters also back an English breakaway with 58 per cent supporting an English parliament with similar powers to the Scottish one.

Where in the current political set up in England are such views represented?  Yes, I know, there's the CEP and the English Democrats and so on but they're well on the outside of the tent, aren't they.

More on this poll from Anthony Wells.

The next thing is, which political party is actually going to do anything about this?


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Is this another Blair Legacy? Will history find anything good to say about this man?

Tim adds: Well, history would probably say something pretty good about him if he did in fact lead to English independence. Outside the EU, naturally.

Posted by: Kit | Nov 26, 2006 9:42:33 AM

Why don't you join or support the English Democrats Tim?

We are campaigning both for an English Parliament AND a referendum on leaving the EU!

Tim adds: I tend to think that UKIP are the only people with a chance of breaking through at all.

Posted by: Edward Longshanks | Nov 26, 2006 11:18:48 AM

Christ, I hope the Scot's realise what a third-rate independent state they'd be. If Scotland is viewed independently, where does it rank within the EU in terms of wealth? Anyone?

Posted by: Andrew Paterson | Nov 26, 2006 12:18:12 PM

Scottish GDP per capita is about the UK average, so it wouldn't do too badly there. In terms of total GDP it would therefore do reasonably well for its population, but as its population is about 5m, it would be similar to the other West European states of that size.

Posted by: Matthew | Nov 26, 2006 12:35:08 PM

Too many people have sat back and remained silent while England's people have been treated like dogs. Our cancer patients are told to die quietly for want of life saving drugs given freely to the rest of the UK, while the Scottish chancellor taxes the English to their graves. Our students are flung into debt on the backs of Scottish votes and our pensioners are told to sell their homes, for want of care, which is also given freely to Scots. The list goes on and England's politicians have ridden the English gravy train, along with Scotland's politicians, and said nothing.
The tide is turning and it will be them left on the outside of the tent, while England goes it alone and chooses politicians who represent them fairly and equally.
A name shame list is a must. All Parties are equally to blame and all must rethink their anti-English policies, or be slung into political oblivion.
Time to put the champagne on ice, everyone. Independence is right around the corner.

Posted by: Dee | Nov 26, 2006 1:29:07 PM

If an independent Scotland were to adopt a shrewd combination of immigration/asylum policy and Inheritance Tax policy, it might wax rich as a recipient of prosperous "white flight". Now, whom can I most annoy by recommending that?

Posted by: dearieme | Nov 26, 2006 2:46:51 PM

Not a bad idea - it would be pretty good for England - we'd get lots of entreprenurial and hard-working immigrants, and we'd lose all those people who don't believe in meritocracy.

Posted by: Matthew | Nov 26, 2006 11:05:39 PM