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August 17, 2006
Inigo Wilson
As ever, the Avian Comestible deploys the best prose on it, Harry’s Place and Pickled Politics have long discussion threads on it, Robert Sharp is thoughtful, Nosemonkey is erudite, Guido and Iain are on the case and no doubt there are thousands of other blogs I know nothing about chewing over and adding to the story.
All is therefore normal in the British blogosphere. "It", the story, being this from Inigo Wilson at Conservative Home.
MPAC are trying to have him fired from his job at Orange as a result of the, ahem, humour in his piece.
Good luck to them say I. MPAC, just like Inigo himself, have a perfect right to say whatever they wish, subject only to the laws of libel and incitement to violence. Just as Orange and any-, and every-, one else, have a perfect right to listen to and act on such sayings or not, as they please.
Those rules we have, about not having restrictions upon free speech, are meant for government: it’s very clearly spelled out in the US Constitution (which I know we don’t follow, but I do regard it as a good model in this specific instance) that Congress shall make no laws....there’s nothing and should not be to stop people listening, not listening, arguing or screaming back, as they wish, for to do so infringes their own rights of free speech.
Now as a personal matter I wish Inigo every luck in keeping his job, hope that Orange dismiss MPAC as the fruit loops they are and that they crawl back under the rock from whence they came. But none of that changes the legal and moral reality.
Inigo Wilson, in common with us all, has the right to say anything he damn well likes. He also has the duty to take the consequences. If those include enraged consumers petitioning his employer, well, it’s a free country after all, is it not?
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Comments
Almost every third piece of mine has a dig at political correctness and I note the article on it is my third most visited page. PC stinks in every shape and form and I agree that Inigo shouldn't be sent down but unfortunately, in the post-modernist society over there, he will.
Posted by: james higham | Aug 17, 2006 3:08:23 PM
To be fair, the Pedant General keeps me honest, as ever.
Posted by: Robert | Aug 17, 2006 3:09:20 PM
Thing is Tim, it isn't a level playing field is it?
Yes, this isn't an issue of Government carrying out censorship, but Government, and the BBC et al, set the standards for what is "acceptable" and "unacceptable" speech. The climate is one in which any faintly offensive, in PC terms, speech or actions can gte you fired, and the climate comes straight from Government.
Posted by: Frank Fisher | Aug 17, 2006 3:20:16 PM
I think Inigo would have a better case if he hadn't identified himself and his job. Presumably, if he was just Joe Soap with a blog, MPAC would have had to content themselves with seething over his 'politically incorrect' views. He did himself no favours.
The company are probably within their rights to take action if there's something in his contract about 'bringing the firm into disrepute', which it seems he has done, if the link to their name is so easily made.
Posted by: JuliaM | Aug 17, 2006 5:22:51 PM
Tim
On a similar issue - someone threatening to go to John Band of late SBBS's employers/clients, you posted this at Harry's Place:
Personally I’d like to find out who did this to John B, go round, kick their dog, trip them up and steal their lunch money.
What absolute wankers.
Posted by: Tim Worstall at September 14, 2005 04:19 PM
Well, it's all coming out in the wash at Biased BBC (the thread about Orla Guerin). A poster says it was someone called John Anderson who posts as dumbcisco - and sometimes as johninlondon
lives in Kingston-upon-Thames
works in data communications
shouldn't be hard to track down
Posted by: frank urquhart | Aug 18, 2006 12:07:00 AM
What if he hasn't got a dog....?
Posted by: JuliaM | Aug 18, 2006 6:48:14 AM
Your comments:
"MPAC are trying to have him fired from his job at Orange as a result of the, ahem, humour in his piece. Good luck to them say I."
and
"Now as a personal matter I wish Inigo every luck in keeping his job, hope that Orange dismiss MPAC as the fruit loops they "
don't seem to me to be compatible.
Tim adds: Sure they are. I wish everyone the best of luck in exercising their rights to free speech. I also, in this specific case, side with Inigo keeping his job.
Posted by: Matthew | Aug 18, 2006 10:18:21 AM
More on the Inigo Wilson story here.
Seems that there is more to it than meets the eye.
Posted by: Peter | Aug 18, 2006 10:22:55 AM
Ok, I thought the 'good luck' meant in getting him fired.
Posted by: Matthew | Aug 18, 2006 10:43:09 AM
Comment on Samizdata re Mr Wilson ( http://www.samizdata.net/mt/hippotime.cgi?entry_id=9317 ).
That's the way communism worked during the 1970's-1980's in Czechoslovakia. I remember it very well from my family.
People got fired for their political opinions, and anybody could have been spied by the omnipresent StB (State Security). If you were found "politically unreliable", your job choices were drastically limited to low-paid menial jobs.
It's important to note that in today's Czech Republic no employer would dare to fire a worker for his blog or for his/her non-work-related public statements. This is just unthinkable.
Posted by PK at August 18, 2006 09:46 AM
I think that just about says it all. Free country? Don't make me laugh.
Posted by: The worm has turned | Aug 18, 2006 1:38:12 PM
Peter - that link is junk. It just repeats a few lines of the article, it doesn;t add anything new. Plus it seems to have a problem with the line: "Diversity - creating a workforce based on how people look rather than on their skills or aptitude."
For an accurate definition of modern PC Diversity I'd say that takes some beating!
Posted by: Steve B | Aug 18, 2006 4:16:16 PM
Cheers Steve
Posted by: Peter | Aug 18, 2006 6:53:30 PM