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August 13, 2006

90 Day Detention

Maybe this is just a trial balloon and maybe it isn’t:

Ministers are planning a fresh attempt to win the power to hold terrorist suspects for up to 90 days without charge in the wake of the aircraft bomb plot.

Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and John Reid are all in favour of trying to change the 28-day limit, which they believe is insufficient to safeguard the public. The Government is likely to try again to win the new powers for police after Parliament returns from its summer break.

Didn’t take them bloody long, did it?

That there are people trying to kill us, we know. That there are people desperate to take away our liberties, to change the very basis of our way of life, we also know.

Somewhat unfortunate that there seem to be two groups, the latter being our very own Government.

The idea doesn’t even hold any water: isn’t even logical. The laws currently in place have been quite sufficient to uncover this plot. So why do we need to give up more liberty?

A spokesman for Mr Reid said the Home Secretary had been "entirely focused on the current operation" and had "given no thought to what needs to happen in the future".

However, a source close to him confirmed that he, Mr Blair and Mr Brown were "as one" on the issue and claimed that Labour could score a victory over the Tories, who last year voted against the 90-day limit.

Oh, that’s why. Party politics, how wonderful. The rights of a British citizen, that silly little habeas corpus thing that is the basis of all of our other freedoms, the essential liberty that no one can just lock us up because they don’t like the look of us, is to be taken away  so that three Scotsmen can get one over on the Tories?

And these laddies think that we taxpayers should pay for more of this party politics shite?

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Comments

Oops, the "laddies" comment isn't up to your usual standards.

I, like many Scots/Scotch/Jocks am totally against the threat to our liberties from this bunch of nonentities but always try to remember that at any time there remains a majority of English MPs.


ScotsToryB

Tim adds: Fair enough. I originally had "fuckers" in there but thought I’d tone it down a little.

Posted by: ScotsToryB | Aug 13, 2006 9:40:45 AM

Most of us laddies are quite happy, normally, to be called "fuckers"!
I have many fond memories of sweet English roses.

ScotsToryB

Posted by: ScotsToryB | Aug 13, 2006 11:21:18 AM

'but always try to remember that at any time there remains a majority of English MPs.'

The trouble is that the Scots MPs can vote on matters that do not affect their own constituents, and these votes can tip the balance in any given issue (before devolution, Scotland may have been in the minority, but each MP had the same stake in any given issue)

In England, Labour did not win the popular vote (though they have more MPs than anyone else)

Posted by: Murk | Aug 13, 2006 12:53:08 PM

Yes, Murk but not on all things. I agree (nod to Tam Dayell and his West Lothian Question - a Scot pointing out the bleedin' obvious)but on security and freedoms we receive the same rubbish as you do.

I don't know the exact title but there is an addition to Parliamentary laws that makes them suitable for the Scottish legal system. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable than me can enlighten?

(I refer to Parliamentary as Westminster because if you have ever had the misfortune to watch the bunch of "cooncil" rejects at work here.......)

I found this amusing:


First they came for the lip gloss…
Posted by Hedley Lamarr · August 11th, 2006 at 4:08 pm


ScotsToryB

Posted by: ScotsToryB | Aug 13, 2006 1:37:12 PM