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May 17, 2006

The Project

Working on a little project at the moment.

Over here: Nightcap Syndication.

Wonder if a few people would like to spend 10 minutes doing some Beta testing?

Specifically, register, and then have a look in your spam filters for a few of the lottery, phishing etc scams. Add them into the relevant sections.

This will help us test the registration procedure ?(Duh!) and make sure that access is properly granted etc. The spam emails? We want to build a database that Google can see so that if people start to check these things they’ll find out they are a scam.

There’ll be a lot more to the site but that’s coming a little later.

Tim

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Needs a tweak - once registered and Logged in I'm welcomed as "0" and not authorised to submit a scam - good work though!

Posted by: The Englishman | May 17, 2006 2:22:31 PM

Ditto for me. Cannot submit and "Hi, 0" when I login.

Looks nice.

Posted by: Politicalog | May 17, 2006 8:27:05 PM

In addition to the above, when you click on the link in the email to complete registration, the page you land at has no place to login, nor a link to a login page!

I only had a quick look, but I do feel that as a CMS both Joomla (and its parent Mambo) suck big time - all the modules have tables embedded in them which are inordinately difficult to root out, making the separation of content and presentation almost impossible to achieve, the interace for creating content and creating menu items in incredibly clunky and unintuitive and the permissions system (unless it's been improved a lot recently) is not much good either - way too inflexible.

I know there is a community of developers busy making new widgets for it, but it seems to me that the original product isn't really fit for purpose.

Posted by: Pete Gray | May 17, 2006 11:43:53 PM

I like the idea, btw, and the banner at the top.

I notice also that it takes two clicks to log out - clicking on the log out button in the side bar takes you to a page with a 'log out' button in the middle.

...and in the tweaks line - why C in parentheses? What's wrong with ©?

Posted by: Pete Gray | May 17, 2006 11:49:35 PM

Learn something new everyday... it turned my ampersand+copy+semi-colon into a copyright symbol.

Posted by: Pete Gray | May 17, 2006 11:51:26 PM

Tim, interesting idea. A kind of showcase and also quite possibly a good read. We shall have to wait and see how it pans out. Basically, as far as I can tell, anything goes for publication as long as it is readable and legal and gets the approval of 'the editors'. Not sure about its uniqueness overall except for the showcase aspect and as a platform for paid work.

Is it UK only?

Tim adds: No, not UK only. We’ve got a few "editors" who will be taking part in dealing with other areas. But the other stuff, yes. Looking for people to take part, of course :-)

Posted by: JohnJo | May 18, 2006 10:15:48 AM

I only had a quick look, but I do feel that as a CMS both Joomla (and its parent Mambo) suck big time - all the modules have tables embedded in them which are inordinately difficult to root out, making the separation of content and presentation almost impossible to achieve, the interace for creating content and creating menu items in incredibly clunky and unintuitive...

I've found it OK, actually.

and the permissions system (unless it's been improved a lot recently) is not much good either - way too inflexible.

There is that, but actually we don't need massively complicated permissions systems. The one issue that we had was solved by a quick bit of alteration to the source PHP.

I know there is a community of developers busy making new widgets for it, but it seems to me that the original product isn't really fit for purpose.

There are predefined templates which will strip out the tables (they are entirely CSS based) which we shall implement in due course. The advantage of tables, at present, is that they do render correctly in browsers; given the imminent release of Explorer 7 (although we know very little about its CSS support, it seems as though it still does not have complete support for CSS2), this is probably a good thing for now.

There are various reasons why Joomla was chosen, including its support base, which those of us engaged in the project did discuss.

I'll get to looking at EZPublish soon enough, Pete!

DK

Posted by: Devil's Kitchen | May 18, 2006 1:39:26 PM

From what I can remember of Mambo, it's not the tables in the templates that are the issue - they are trivial to remove - it's the ones embedded in the application itself, down amongst the backend code, especially the ones where different bits of the same table are scattered amongst several files.

And that fact that you can publish an item, but it doesn't appear in the menu until you explicitly link it to a menu, and the whole category/section limitation.

eZ publish is not without its own issues, but this isn't one of them.

As for browser support, unless you're catering for IE4 or NS4, all the others you're likely to come across will make a reasonable go of an all CSS layout (they won't all look the same of course, but who cares as long as they are acceptable and usable?). But this is wandering way off topic...

I think it's safe to say, though, that despite runing over a year behind schedule IE7 will _still_ suck, and bugs dating back to IE4 will _still_ be there.

Posted by: Pete Gray | May 18, 2006 7:41:25 PM