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February 15, 2006

Gordon Brown.

Did Gordon Brown really say this?

This week has shown us to be in the last stages of intellectual decadence: ID cards are necessary, said Gordon Brown on Monday, "as a protection of people's individual civil liberties". A more dishonest justification for the extension of state power cannot be imagined.

He’s either a liar or an ass. Your choice.

February 15, 2006 in Politics | Permalink


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or both.

Posted by: Rob Read | Feb 15, 2006 10:46:02 AM

As a commentator on economic affairs, surely you were impressed with the Chancellor of the Exchequer's arithmetical accounting abilities ?

"I can tell you that, by 2008, a further £75 million will be added to the Met's counter-terrorism capability and a further £135 million for regional intelligence and investigation - in total investing £230 million more nationwide."

75 + 135 = 210

230 - 210 = 20

Did he just make £20 million vanish ?

The full text of the speech confirms the words he uttered live on tv.

Posted by: Watching Them, Watching Us | Feb 15, 2006 11:47:03 AM

"Freedom is Slavery"....

Posted by: xj | Feb 15, 2006 12:27:23 PM

If he couldn't make millions of pounds vanish, he'd be in the wrong line of work.

Posted by: P. Froward | Feb 15, 2006 12:53:31 PM

I can't find the Telegraph quote in that speech, nor the implication they are making.

Is it me, or is it that the Telegraph are making up quotes?

Posted by: RichardR | Feb 15, 2006 12:53:36 PM

WTWU, it seems you've ignored an essential but undereported segment of the speech:

"and a further £20 million for use as a slush fund for Rupert Murdoch, Richard Desmond and the Barclay brothers, to help the project run more smoothly"

75 + 135 + 20 = 230

The Chancellor never messes his sums!

Posted by: Fluffy Economist | Feb 15, 2006 2:49:27 PM

I would also add thief (stealing £5bn p.a. from pension funds, means testing OAP beneifts thereby ensuring that the pension paid does not meet any acceptable minimum income level, etc.) and a cook (as in cooking the books - regularly altering the dates of the economic cycle so that his golden rule is not broken, the highly ambiguous tests for whether the UK enters the Euro, etc.). I was also going to work in "his wife and her lover" but that was a lurid step too far.

Anyway I think that DK's take on the Gobbling King sums the scottish areshole up nicely.

Posted by: Pip | Feb 15, 2006 3:00:43 PM

Oooooh dear! WTWU has just revealed himself to be of those the state education system didn't manage to cure of numeracy. Doesn't he know Big Brother hates and fears a numerate peasantry. Sadly I expect to hear soon that WTWU has been arrested by the Thought Police and sent for de-education.

Safe in his colonial fastness and protected by heavily armed and ferociously loyal Zulu warriors The Remittane Man can reveal the true reason behind the "missing" 20 mill:

Gordon has sussed that he will be in charge of implementing the ID card thing and despite government protestations this will cost a lot more than previously admitted. He's simply trying to build up a little kitty to help hide the overruns.

By analysing all ministerial announcements made since GB came out in favour of ID cards and all those into the future we might get some idea f how much he thinks the true cost f the project will be. One word of warning though, ignore any spending announcements from the ODPM; Prescott, is as thick as a baboon and won't be trusted to get this right.


Posted by: The Remittance Man | Feb 15, 2006 5:04:45 PM

He's just jumped on the liberticidal posturing bandwagon. He's an OK chancellor, but he doesn't have the charisma. So he's doing a Sarkozy and grabbing himself some toughness credentials. Hooray hooray.

Posted by: The Militant Pine Marten | Feb 15, 2006 5:19:15 PM

'ID cards are necessary, said Gordon Brown on Monday, "as a protection of people's individual civil liberties"'

Happily for my blood pressure I did not hear Brown's comments on Monday, but I'm fairly certain that he is appealing to the notion (much beloved of his boss, errr, colleague, Tony) that "the most important human right is the right not to be blown up" (or cognates) and he has somehow got it in to his head that ID cards are somehow related to the prevention of terrorism.

Of course, this is as nothing by comparison with Charles Clarke who in a speech to the EUROPARL (as it is known in Newspeak) made reference to that little-known human right, "the right to have an ID card".

Posted by: Chris Lightfoot | Feb 15, 2006 7:12:00 PM

made reference to that little-known human right, "the right to have an ID card"

well according to New Labour you're not human without one ...

Posted by: chris | Feb 15, 2006 7:17:21 PM

Brown is both a liar AND an ass as well as being an incompetent chancellor.

Posted by: HJHJ | Feb 15, 2006 10:54:07 PM


and he's writing out big cheques with your name written on the bottom.

Posted by: Rob Read | Feb 16, 2006 12:41:46 PM

Sorry to sound like a really gloaty thing here, but Trevor Manuel, the South African Minister of Finance, presented his budget here yesterday. GOV.ZA had a revenue overrun of many many billions (that's right, they collected more than they planned) and as well as increasing spending (bad thing but it keeps the peasants happy) he gave us all a bit of a tax break too.

Npw Trev's being doing this quite frequently in his 10 years in office. Maybe Gordon the Sweaty should take a trip to Cape Town and take a few lessons. Even if he doesn't learn anything, there's always a chance he'll be gunned down by a carjacker.

We can always live in hope, I'll just be doing it with more of my cash in my pocket; haha


Posted by: The Remittance Man | Feb 16, 2006 2:49:48 PM

We had to destroy your freedom to save it...

Posted by: Mr. Bingley | Feb 16, 2006 8:46:04 PM

Rob Read: What worries me is that not only is he writing our big cheques with my name on the bottom, he's also writing out big cheques with my young daughter's name on the bottom. We are going to be paying for his incompetence for that long.

Posted by: HJHJ | Feb 16, 2006 10:46:59 PM

Greedy Gordon Brown should not be in Office controlling our country. We need a vote now to get him out. He is the tax tyrant of the century and will continue to implement policies like a dictatorship. When was the last time there was a referendum? God help us all now that he is in Power! Get Gordon OUT!!

Posted by: Renee | Jul 4, 2007 5:09:49 PM