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January 25, 2006

David Cameron: Proto-Fascist.

I simply don’t believe that the man actually proposed this:

School leavers should be forced to do three or four months of community service, David Cameron, the Conservative leader, said yesterday.

In a speech to voluntary group leaders, he said he did not want to bring back National Service but wanted young people to have the same feeling of achieving "something we all did together".

Leave aside all the blethering about university fees and so on that others do. He specifically wants it to be compulsory:

Mr Cameron said: "If it [community service] isn't compulsory or if it isn't universal it could tend to be something else that well-off families do because it's good for their kids.

"But it would not reach some of the most marginalised families and excluded children who actually would really benefit."

Now this is voluntary work remember. No pay. (If it was for pay it would be just as bad in one way and worse in another. Why pay 18 year olds to do something when we could have experienced people doing it? Bang goes productivity.)

He is seriously suggesting that all people should work, unpaid, for the State. This is Fascism folks, a foul and vile idea that the interests of the State trump those of the individual. That our labour is something at the disposal of said State, that we are mere helots to be told what to do as the Lords and Masters desire. 

There are disgusting overtones of the Lord’s Days on a medieval manor, those days when labour was owed to the feudal master rather than the individual.

We, the people, create the government to do those things for us that have to be done collectively and with the possibility of compulsion being necessary. But we do not belong to that State for them to dispose of us as they will.

I simply cannot believe that a Tory could propose such a vile idea, something quite so illiberal, for the State to command, to confiscate, our lives.

Fuck that, frankly.

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Comments

I think it was Ben Franklin who commented that a little revolution was necessary from time to time for the benefit of the state.

Old "Hundred Dollar Ben" was a very prescient man.

RM

Posted by: The Remittance Man | Jan 25, 2006 8:48:24 AM

It's not just Facism, it's Communism too. Ask anyone who was in the Komsomol about unpaid community service.

Tim adds: Indeed. Komsomolsk on Amur comes to mind.

Posted by: Tim Newman | Jan 25, 2006 9:05:24 AM

Ah, effecting "closure" on their years as pupils; affirming, by a graduation ritual, their emergence into manhood or womanhood; like the chrysalis becoming a butterfly, spreading their wings and launching into the Great Adventure that is adult life. Quite Blairite.

Posted by: dearieme | Jan 25, 2006 9:13:56 AM

Well, there goes the young LibDem Uni-student vote that up until now he had been attracting.

Posted by: Scott Campbell at Blithering Bunny | Jan 25, 2006 11:15:17 AM

Of course, Cameron knows full well that the government can't even get people off welfare, let alone force them to work for nothing. This is just image-spinning (although it's the wrong image).

Posted by: Scott Campbell at Blithering Bunny | Jan 25, 2006 11:16:39 AM

Yes, more clues he is a paternalistic patronising patriachal Heathite Tory.

Posted by: Andrew Ian Dodge | Jan 25, 2006 11:54:17 AM

Compulsory voluntary work-now that's a good idea.


James


Posted by: james C | Jan 25, 2006 12:36:18 PM

So you are now to be punished for finishing school and remaining in the U.K?

Posted by: Rob Read | Jan 25, 2006 12:44:39 PM

Hmm..I wonder if teenagers will have their passports revoked until they have completed their period of slave labour?

Posted by: Bishop Hill | Jan 25, 2006 12:53:16 PM

I remember an old episode of Rik Mayall's The New Statesman where B'Stard published an article arguing in favour of slavery. B'Stard, of course, was a parody of an extremely right-wing Tory.

How on earth did we get from that to Cameron advocating forced labour as part of his renunciation of right-wing values?

Satire is obsolete...

Posted by: xj | Jan 25, 2006 1:54:40 PM

This reminds me of the choice we used to have to make at school between joining the Combined Cadet Force or doing social services (gardening for old people or more often mending old desks). I chose the CCF and preferred to use my spare time during the holidays working on the bins which was probably more useful than social work (they hardly got any work done as the OAPs were forever making tea and cakes for the boys) and was surprisingly well paid. If young people or anyone else for that matter wants to do unpaid work it should be voluntary.

Posted by: esbonio | Jan 25, 2006 2:21:22 PM

You what Tim? Didn't the UK used to have National Service back in the day? Are you telling me we used to be fascists???

And where does he say he's not going to pay them anything?

Posted by: Andy | Jan 25, 2006 5:09:17 PM

"We, the people, create the government to do those things for us that have to be done collectively and with the possibility of compulsion being necessary. But we do not belong to that State for them to dispose of us as they will."

Uhhhhh? Tim, have are you on something? ... this is modern Britain ... hardly a free land under the sky. Just try telling the "revenooers" you ain't paying for some idiot lefty scheme that the govnt has cooked up ( I hear they think that Britain can do something about the world's greenhouse gases, the revenooers will be calling shortly to pay for it ... go on Tim, just telling you aint paying 'cos its self serving lefty myth pants lies wrong).

Posted by: johnny bonk | Jan 25, 2006 7:41:34 PM

Didn't the UK used to have National Service back in the day?

But they were paid, right?

Posted by: Enoch | Jan 25, 2006 8:17:40 PM

RM: It was Thomas Jefferson who said it wasn't a bad thing to have a revolution to revitalize a drifting society.

Posted by: ic | Jan 25, 2006 8:53:08 PM

But then Thom. Jefferson owned six of his own children as slaves.

Posted by: dearieme | Jan 26, 2006 2:00:24 AM

I'm no tory but I think its a great idea. So long as there was democratic accountability with regards to what kind of "community service" people were doing. It could be fun, and it would make people more in connect with society and less atomised.

There's nothing facist about doing work for a democratic state. The state is us.

Posted by: girl | Jun 26, 2006 12:16:39 PM